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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:21 PM
The typical defense is to actively filter input
10:22 PM
I know
10:22 PM
That still won't stop me from being able to manipulate people
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Filter shield, Partical Shield, Telepathy Shield, etc.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:22 PM
The only way to fully stop manipulation without active filters is to just cut off the input
10:22 PM
And that makes my work even easier
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Not quite.
10:23 PM
You people really don't get it, now do you?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:23 PM
I'm curious
10:23 PM
How can a shield stop your mind from being logically led to a conclusion?
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Because it's a shield made with you mind.
10:23 PM
Wait... Now you're confusing me...
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:23 PM
And how does it know to defend against this information rather than the rest of the millions of iotas of information coming in?
10:24 PM
...do you know what I'm talking about when I talk about manipulation?
10:24 PM
I'm not just talking about using magic or psionics or whatever to mess with your head remotely
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I know, I know,
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:25 PM
I can pull out a whiteboard and convince people of something I know to be patently false
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Indeed. People are gullible. Nearly nothing can change that but a crazy stupid amount of wisdom.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:26 PM
Wisdom is such a reductive word though
10:26 PM
You have to be able to spot the logic holes in my arguments (usually there are plenty)
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Stop trying to change the subject.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:27 PM
...but that was still fairly on topic
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Things are really only true because you say they're true. We make this static reality.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:27 PM
That argument always concerns me
10:27 PM
Because if that was the case I'd have a lot more tricks at my disposal than I currently do
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Closing yourself is doing no good.
10:28 PM
Ah, not quite.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:28 PM
Reality is quite good at persisting outside of my periphery
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Things aren't quite that simple, though they are pretty darn simple.
10:29 PM
Question... Why do I have this feeling we're being watched?
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By other members?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:29 PM
I can't say
10:29 PM
I just assume everything in here is being monitored and roll with it
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Well I mean, it is.
10:30 PM
Proof.
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Show yourself.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:30 PM
I always operate under the assumption that I'm within an illusion
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At very least give us your thoughts on what we're discussing.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:30 PM
Some of them just tend to be more well-constructed than others
10:31 PM
Like that one we call "reality"
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Why do folks in the Arcane have to always be so serious and cryptic? Do you get anything out of it?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:31 PM
I mean, while it is fun to talk circles around people, I'm not doing so at the moment
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I just tend to use a different set of vocabulary than the average person
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aS DO I.
10:32 PM
Crap, caps was on
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:32 PM
"Illusion" in my eyes refers to any information I encounter, in whatever form it may take
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So not the dictionary definition?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:33 PM
Indeed
10:33 PM
Because what I call illusions can be perfectly real
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Anything I can contact you with? Besides discord?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:34 PM
Because just because the evidence presented to support a claim is awful doesn't necessarily mean that claim is invalid
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Not really
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Discord is my primary means of contact
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I'd like to continue our conversation/argument later.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:34 PM
You can always DM me
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I don't like discord.
10:34 PM
Proxy sites can't run it well.
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Just promise me this, though...
10:36 PM
You'll at least look into Psionics? And I'll look into your magickal studies, and we can report back our findings, what we learned, and theories we have, okay?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:36 PM
I... really don't have time for that
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:37 PM
From what I saw that wiki did seem fairly alright though
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Didn't throw any of the normal red flags
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You have time to do this, you have time to look into Psionics, got that?!
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:37 PM
I'm doing this while writing machine learning code
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For my own reference, what are some of the redflags, before I go?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:38 PM
They're... hard to put into simple words
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:38 PM
Stuff like "gravity isn't actually real" is an example of bullshit logic
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That one can be easy to spot
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People say that stuff?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:39 PM
Yep
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This world is doomed.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:39 PM
I've seen an actual book on levitation that started with that exact line
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Logic holes in general tend to be my red flags
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Another one is when "just believe" is almost all of the methodology you're givin
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I doubt you care, but I'm a Cristian, and many of my studies augment my religion, but I find work arounds. I won't go ranting about shit like Huckabee or something.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:40 PM
I was raised in Christian churches
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Did ya' keep the religion?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:40 PM
I have a good friend who is devoutly Christian, and have even been present for at least one instance of prophecy
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I am currently not committed to any particular religion
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I tend to consider myself animistic
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Anywho, have a great day, see ya'... Eh, sometime!
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 10/6/2018 10:41 PM
See you around
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Good luck with the psionics stuff
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It's a shame that the current benchmark for the kind of technique I want to develop was 3+ years of active attunement/study
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Based upon my friend who claims to be able to do the thing in question
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Not that his benchmarks are exactly reliable, meaning it would likely take me even longer
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Did you ever think you didn't create your tulpa but channeled something else from the multiverse?
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Jen E. Rator 11/5/2018 2:56 AM
That’s slightly true for two of my tulpas I guess, but I never really channeled them, you see.
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Hey, I honestly didn't know how to pin-point my tulpa for years. I was between hospitalizing myself and exorcising him xD because he just "appeared". I came across tulpamancy, but I was mistaken, believing tulpas can only be made on purpose
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Put it this way, regardless of their origins, your mind is the baseground you use to build a relationship to them so it is still the one you should exercise.
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Jen E. Rator 11/5/2018 6:37 AM
Yeah I understand what you mean, same thing with my tulpas. I thought I had finally lost it, or I chalked it up to them just being coping mechanisms.
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And that last statement of yours is really true
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Hey
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Three of My mates, have mutinous tulpae, how can I help them?
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Albino Elephant 11/12/2018 9:37 PM
🤔 🤔 🤔
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mob mentality at its finest
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Well they did turn into energy vampires. And my own tulpa have a job mentality. But I'm their Don
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Albino Elephant 11/12/2018 9:39 PM
tulpas are by definition energy vampires
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